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General Caffeine(OD)
Posted by General Caffeine(OD) on Fri May 02, 2003 10:05 AM
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The following members have been disabled unconditionally for lying about their stats:

chobosarah(OD)

I will strictly enforce a policy about this. If a member is misreporting his or her win/loss record in order to take advantage of the system, he or she will be disabled immediately.

It's ok to be off a few wins or losses negatively (i.e., have bigger stats on battle.net than on the overdosed website) or forget to update your ladder stats, but saying you have 555 wins when in reality you have 7 will get you disabled.

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Commented by: Master Warrant Officer MWO5 Sarah(OD) on Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:48 PM
I absolutely agree that ranks are way too easily earned. Some people just promote people they know without any specific reason, just the fact that they can promote. This should change and promos should go back to officer's only.

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Commented by: Master Warrant Officer MWO5 AgentFelix(OD) on Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:46 AM
I agree that only officers should be allowed to promote, it would help keep things more under control... also maybe having it 10 days or 14 days instead of 8 days to be able to be promoted because in the long run I think it is better off that way... just a thought though Smile

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Commented by: Chief Warrant Officer CWO4 PyRo-05(OD) on Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:57 AM
Nah i dont think that is kool i think that it should stay at WO1 can promote but i do agree with the days should go to 10 days its longer there should be more rules to it also like you can only promo one person some people promo 5 people.



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Commented by: Master Warrant Officer MWO5 Supreme(OD) on Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:13 AM
Seems like chobo has problems with the site. weird...

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Commented by: General BigBaller(OD) on Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:21 AM
Auto promotions for the new recruits and enlisted members will still work.

What will not work is any rank above Staff. Sgt is able to promote.

There is a new system that will be in place to remove the ease of how people gain rank in this clan.

From what we will say is very soon, in order to get a promotion in OverDosed it will be scripted that a general as to approve itl.

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Commented by: Master Sergeant BreeZe(OD) on Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:26 AM
I think the promotion system should be changed so that a General has to approve the promotion. Just my two cents though.

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Commented by: General BigBaller(OD) on Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:30 AM
Breeze

read what I just said, I just said a general will have to approve the promotion -_-

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Commented by: Master Sergeant BreeZe(OD) on Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:36 AM
Really sorry. I was typing while you were. Sorry.

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Commented by: Second Lieutenant Abysslord(OD) on Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:03 AM
Improving promotion system you say? That sounds great, too many people getting free promotions because of them being "friends" or "buddies" or even "i saw you today". In my opinion I think promotion abilities should be given to Officers and Generals.

For those of you that still feel a bit down because promotion system is down for now, well look on the bright side; we can still demote people. Cheesy

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Commented by: Chief Warrant Officer CWO4 PyRo-05(OD) on Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:06 AM
nah thats goin to far cuz if you ever once mad a genral mad they can hold that genst you forever youll never get anywhere. i think it should be 14 days you and only promo one person every month and you cant promo the same person twice in a row that would be better

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Commented by: First Lieutenant KaGe(OD) on Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:19 AM
That seems fair, that a general has to OK a promotion, but what happens if the general that is OKing it or declining it doesnt like that person for a personal reason? Hopefully it is if no one approves it in like 3 days, the request for promotion is deleted, so it cant be turned down, just erased if no one OKs it...

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Commented by: Second Lieutenant MiZu-KnIgHt(OD) on Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:14 AM
Didn't ChoBo(OD) close down the promotion option... If so how did Daedalus(OD) promote Breeze(OD)... Just wondering. Shocked

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Commented by: First Lieutenant Judge(OD) on Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:09 AM
I think that having a General accept or decline the promo sounds great. But also... have the general give a reason WHY he is accepting the promotion, or WHY he is declining it, that way personal reasons would not count, and if a general decline for a particular reason hopefully he has proof if ANOTHER general questions him. Or maybe 2 out of 3 generals should approve, dat should get rid of prejudice if der is any at all. Smile but thank god new promo system will b worked out

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Commented by: Lieutenant Colonel x_dragon(OD) on Wed Oct 06, 2004 11:10 AM
like WENIS FOR EXAMPLE HE JOINED WHEN I WAS WO2 NOWS HES SAME RANK AS ME WTF UP WITH that? lol but i think offer and higher can prom/ wait 10 days/cant prom twice/ i guess its cool asking a general ^_^, but dude people joined when i was wo2 and their like colonel their must be favorites of generals -_-
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Commented by: Chief Warrant Officer CWO4 LG(OD) on Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:01 PM
this is a very good thing if you ask me.

ive been promoted 2-3 times within the last 3 weeks, which is too much..
good luck, doing the scripts!

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Commented by: First Sergeant Fledall(OD) on Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:50 PM
I think if your going to make any changes at all to promo system it shouldn't go much farther than officers only promoting and 10 dsp

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Commented by: Master Warrant Officer MWO5 Sarah(OD) on Wed Oct 06, 2004 11:54 PM
You guys really complain a lot of days since promotion. I have a disablement record and I have to wait 16 days for my promos and I really don't care. -_- Rank's aren't everything you know, promo's should be given to Officers+ and probably agreed by 2/3 Generals! That way people can't abuse their Promoting abilities, and everyone will be happy!

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Commented by: Brigadier General OmniKilla(OD) on Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:49 AM
Yall are going to have to wait even longer for promos after the scripts are fixed. So stop complaining!!!

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Commented by: Warrant Officer WO1 Silent_Mage(OD) on Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:55 AM
Listen... Half of our Generals (not naming anyone) are slightly IA. How would we get an approval? Talking to the General on AIM? Sending a PM? And so on.

I say that only an officer should promote. BUT, they would have to get a second opinnion from a Warrent Officer or higher. You could say a "sponser".

The Officers should already know how you should promote people. Not by a friendship or relationship but by activeness, loyalty, and manners.

This might make some other members a little ticked off or angry but atleast this system has a meaning and actually will work.

As for the promoting, I will say this again... One Officer decides to promote somebody, they would need a second opinnion though, by a Warent Officer or higher. That would work out, sometimes you can't get ahold of Generals.

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Commented by: Master Warrant Officer MWO5 Sarah(OD) on Thu Oct 07, 2004 6:58 PM
I slightly agree with Silent's statement but I disagree with the "sponser" by a WO or Higher. It should be either seconded by ONE general or TWO Officers, that way it would be more fair. Cool

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Commented by: First Sergeant Fledall(OD) on Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:14 PM
You shouldn't need aproval by anyone else. If its generals only you know AT LEAST one will play favorites. If you really insist on having someone approve to promo then I'd go with Silent's idea.

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Commented by: Master Warrant Officer MWO5 Infernal(OD) on Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:22 PM
i have not been promoted in 40 days and it was 30 days before that Sad

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Commented by: Chief Warrant Officer CWO4 PyRo-05(OD) on Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:18 PM
nah for real thought they are right we shouldnt need a general to promote i like the way it is but more days 10-14 days that would help and that you cant promo the same person 2 times in a row that too

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Commented by: Master Warrant Officer MWO5 Sarah(OD) on Thu Oct 07, 2004 11:47 PM
Definetly not 10-14 days, atleast 20 days! Because 10-14 days is still barely anything -_-

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Commented by: Brigadier General Cyla(OD) on Thu Oct 07, 2004 11:50 PM
only way to be promoted is to get the approval of 2-3 generals... thats ludacris, it wont work, the clan will only get more topheavy than it already is.

6 BW Generals
6 TFT Generals
2 D2x Generals
6 CS Generals

Odds are, if you are a Broodwar general, a CS general, or a TFT general, you aren't going to know too many d2x players, let alone vote for them. To have 3 generals required to promote, would pretty much do a fatal blow to our d2x division. Without hope for advancement, people wont stay long...

Simply put, most generals wont vote for people who don't play their game. Mainly because they don't know the other people. All 4 of our games are pretty equally split up,

BW = Clan OD@USEAST
D2x = Clan OD@USWEST (no offense east squad)
TFT = Clan ODWC@Azeroth
CS = 69.41.244.30:27015

75% of the time they don't run into each other. And some of the generals don't game that much anyway... so the amounts of generals listed for each game, is actually like 4/6 to 1/2 of what is listed.

2-3 votes is nearly impossible... 1 may be ok...

The sad truth is, with this many people, there will probably be so many requests that most generals will just pass them through without looking. And some of those people who tend to stay in a smaller group (like i was for quite some time in this clan) won't be mentioned at all.

The way i can see of improving, is to remove WO promotion abilities, and/or make longer intervals between ranks.

General vote won't really cut it ><

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Commented by: Chief Warrant Officer CWO4 PyRo-05(OD) on Fri Oct 08, 2004 3:04 AM
dont get made at me but HELL NO!!!! like like my idea with sarahs 20 days thats good then its less work on everyone and everyone gets what they want kinda

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Commented by: Sergeant First Class blank(OD) on Sat Oct 09, 2004 12:16 AM
..... i read a part saying to add days to the waiting period? Hey ill just ask, if something like that happens im leaving. I already have to wait... 21 days? I dont know if i could wait 5 months untill i get to be a wo1 again =\

btw, im active -- (for future flames)

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Commented by: Chief Warrant Officer CWO4 PyRo-05(OD) on Sat Oct 09, 2004 1:00 AM
shut up man if you already wait 21 days then you are good and you dont have to worry cuz i said only 14 days kk

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Commented by: General BigBaller(OD) on Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:49 AM
Cyla

Who said 2 or 3 generals have to give approval?

NO ONE

One person submits the promotion, another person (a general) approves or declines the promotion.

Hard? No I dont think so

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Commented by: General BOTOOH(OD) on Wed Oct 13, 2004 4:10 AM
Well i say Demote all IA except with the real excuses for being IA.

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